1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,000 UFO reporting center. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:08,000 Yes, I'm calling from the state of Michigan. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,000 On 2, 4, 93, approximately between the hours of 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,000 5.30 a.m. and 7.30 a.m., we had 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,000 some Star Wars activity of some sort going on over the state capital of 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,000 Lansing, Michigan. My boss also witnesses as we're 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,000 driving down the road in our vehicles and all of them, the objects were 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,000 shaped in sizes. One was triangular shaped in the back of it. 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,000 It was kind of convex and it had double roles 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,000 of lighting on it. And it had two almost like car headlights 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,000 on the front with a red light on the bottom of it that was not flashing or continually 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,000 flashing at all. It just stayed continuous red. And then the other smaller objects 13 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,000 were round cylindrical shaped, kind of hanging down like 14 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,000 in suspension as would be these hot air balloons or something like that. 15 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,000 With extremely bright white lights on them, 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,000 two of the triangular shaped objects were heading west bound. 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,000 One of them turned back heading east and disappeared in the eastern horizon. 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,000 But in the meantime, it shot back something in the direction of these other two 19 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,000 suspended objects hanging over Lansing and it had come down like a 20 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,000 burning trail of an object that was shot 21 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,000 and left a little disintegrating trail behind it. And then the one 22 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,000 smaller cylindrical shaped round objects that was there 23 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,000 scooted towards the north, just scooted real fast up towards 24 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,000 the other object hanging there. The object that was a little bit farther to the north 25 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,000 then shot something out which went across the top of the trees and disintegrated 26 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,000 across the top of the trees. And of course as it got closer 27 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,000 to the ground and left that little burning trail, but it wasn't something that was 28 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,000 real high up in the air. These were maybe suspended 200-300 feet above the ground. 29 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,000 So I said to him, I said, there's some funky stuff going on 30 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,000 over here. Maybe we should report this. Did any of that 31 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,000 occur during the daylight hours? Well, 7 o'clock it started 32 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,000 getting light out. So this was just before dawn and the girl that was with us in the 33 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,000 car that was sleeping, she heard us talking and saying stuff about it. But 34 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,000 the phenomenal speed of these objects and etc. was what 35 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:20,000 amazed me. And I've seen things in the past before. Back in 36 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,000 1978 I stood out here out in Marne, Michigan, which is located just 37 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,000 outside of Grand Rapids, for an hour and watched some object 38 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,000 really phenomenally high in the sky. And I thought, well it could be a satellite. 39 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,000 But approximately every 7 minutes it circled the globe 40 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,000 heading from south to north. And then from 41 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,000 that point it came back from the north to the south. 42 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:48,000 There was a cloud covering and behind that cloud covering was an extreme 43 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,000 bound of light flashing. It was just like the heat lightning you see sometimes in clouds. 44 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,000 But this happened to be like in late November when it's extremely cold out. 45 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,000 And the object shot back to the north at that point and it again 46 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,000 circled the globe. And I waited. It was approximately every 5 to 7 minutes. And I thought 47 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,000 there's nothing I know on Earth that goes that fast. Okay, now how many 48 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,000 triangles were there? There was 3 of them. 2 of them were heading 49 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,000 westbound. And the other one I think went to the south side of the 50 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,000 we call it the I-96 interstate expressway here in Michigan. 51 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:24,000 Okay. And these other objects there was, I tried to get a 52 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,000 signpost. The closest signpost I could find was the one when we were entering 53 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,000 Water Township. Okay. 54 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,000 And that was, I thought I better grab that one. But I started witnessing these things. It was 55 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:40,000 like 5 minutes to 6 and I continued to watch these items. 56 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,000 And then the triangular ones that disappeared to the west. 57 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,000 And as I said, the one turned around and it came back and it went over the 58 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,000 area of Lansing there and it headed eastbound. And my boss and I watched. It was going 59 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,000 so fast that you could just only virtually see a little pinprick 60 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:00,000 of the red light that was on the bottom of it at a certain point and it was gone. 61 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,000 But it did leave, it was almost like maybe 62 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,000 30 seconds after it went to a pinprick that object or whatever it shot 63 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,000 out came back and headed towards those other two objects suspended over in Lansing. 64 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,000 And those may very well have been helicopters or something that they had for traffic control 65 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,000 or something there during the day too. But I doubt it. 66 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:24,000 How many of the spears were there? These little, they looked like what they 67 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:28,000 were, it was like miniature flying saucers but they had something hanging down 68 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,000 underneath them which contained this bright light. Extremely bright 69 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,000 light. I've never seen a light that bright even at the Silver Dome. 70 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,000 And it hung down suspended and below that, yeah, it was the solid red light, 71 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,000 the big red light that just hung there, not flashing or anything. 72 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,000 And there was two of those objects, one of those was a little bit farther, 73 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,000 well actually there was three, there was three objects like that also, but one of them kind of 74 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,000 went farther to the east and I didn't see where that one headed so I thought maybe that one went to the south 75 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,000 of the expressway. But I was concerned with just keeping my eyes on the ones that were in front of me 76 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,000 because you know with something like that you always think, oh well maybe this is happening, maybe 77 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,000 it's not real. Maybe I'm still dreaming but... 78 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,000 or let me put it this way, were the triangles large or small? 79 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:16,000 They were large, they were larger than 80 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,000 our piper planes, they were quite large. 81 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,000 If I would say, if you got them on the ground, I would say that they might be 82 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,000 anywhere from 150 maybe to 200 feet 83 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,000 at least. Now 84 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,000 all of those objects moved, is that correct? All of the objects moved 85 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:40,000 the cylindrical ones that were hanging there, I call them cylindrical but they were 86 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,000 something with something like, look like cages hanging down below them with the 87 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,000 bright light. And those objects I thought would remain stationary but of course 88 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,000 something like that, that close to the ground, had to be planted there by something so it had to 89 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,000 have been moved into place. Those objects 90 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,000 when the one, when that item 91 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,000 or object, a triangular one headed to the east and shot back that 92 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:08,000 whatever it was that shot back, the one closest 93 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:12,000 to the expressway, scooted to the north towards the other one so that they may have ended up 94 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,000 maybe only just a couple hundred yards apart and while it was scooting to the north 95 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,000 after that, got shot at like that, the one at the north side 96 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,000 shot something out, aimed towards whatever that object was that took off 97 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:28,000 in the sky to the east. But I mean by then that thing was already, that was 98 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,000 gone in the horizon, that was already long gone. Okay, now did any of the 99 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:36,000 triangles or the spears maneuver sharply? 100 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:40,000 The only one that scooted sharply was the one 101 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,000 that was suspended and that could have very well been a helicopter but it just shot straight to the north 102 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:48,000 towards that other one that was suspended so that could have been a helicopter. 103 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:52,000 But the other ones, I didn't see them turn at the west 104 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,000 but for an object that was flying that low and not going that 105 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,000 fast and for the great width and height of it 106 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,000 we thought that those objects were just more or less floating up there too until I looked 107 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,000 at my boss and I said, you know, I don't think I've ever recalled seeing anything in our 108 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:12,000 air journals about any objects like this before. 109 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,000 That one disappeared into the west because of the rate we were traveling 110 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,000 eastbound and then when it approached and came back again 111 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,000 it had to be going at a phenomenal rate to reach the distance that it did in the short of time 112 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:28,000 as it did when it swung back and came back that way. 113 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,000 And I saw that one, you could see the outline, the gray shape of the outline 114 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,000 on that one and you could see the double roll lights on the back side of it when it was going away from you. 115 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,000 The ironic thing is I had a real weird feeling that 116 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,000 this object could have reversed itself and gone in any direction that it wanted to. 117 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,000 That it could have gone forward or back in the same manner 118 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:52,000 that, you know, like a car backs up. 119 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:56,000 Now at any time did you see the small spears merge with 120 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:00,000 the light that was being launched from the triangles? 121 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:04,000 Okay, when that triangle, the one that I saw heading to the east, 122 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:08,000 mounted higher into the sky as it was first leaving, there was little teeny 123 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,000 10 pricks of light around it. I thought, well maybe there's somebody 124 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,000 firing at it or maybe it's just something in the atmosphere 125 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,000 that, you know, like a combustible gas or something being released from it that's just setting off 126 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,000 those little shooting objects. But it looked like there were little teeny 127 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:28,000 bubbles of light around it there. It was just flashing on and off consistently, 128 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:32,000 right immediately around it and it was right at that point that it 129 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,000 suddenly just took off to the east and disappeared. 130 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,000 So it was kind of weird. It was kind of interesting. 131 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,000 And where did you get our number? I called through 132 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:48,000 the government agency. They started with the defense department 133 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:52,000 and I got a number here, a 1-800 number and through that one 134 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,000 I was told by the operator, the center of UFO studies and research 135 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,000 in Chicago and then he also looked up another number which was yours, 136 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:04,000 National UFO Reporting Center in Washington. He was trying to get me NASA. 137 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,000 He couldn't find NASA's number and I don't have it. Do you have that? 138 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,000 No, but they would have given you our number anyway. Okay, that'll work. 139 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,000 Do you want your name held confidential over this? It doesn't matter. 140 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,000 Now, what city were you near when this started? Oh gosh, 141 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,000 the township was what we were entering and we were down by the state capital of Lansing 142 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,000 and this was all more or less taking place right within the boundaries of that Lansing area. 143 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Oh, yes. Once we passed the Grand River Avenue exit 144 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,000 and started swinging to the south because the highway kind of bends around to the south of the city there and all, 145 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,000 I just figured that the low one suspended there might have just been 146 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:44,000 those helicopters, you know, but even helicopters move. 147 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,000 You know, and they're not, I've never seen lights that bright on anything like that. 148 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,000 At first I thought it was some of those towers that people have, you know, the 149 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,000 shortwave towers where they put them bright lights. 150 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,000 I've never seen lights that bright and they weren't moving. They were just suspended. 151 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,000 They weren't moving, which is, you know, kind of a weird 152 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,000 situation. That's why I thought they were just towers. You know, that's why I got 153 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:12,000 the impression that they were like cylindrical and they had the metal hanging down. 154 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,000 Whatever that was attached to, it had the bright light was coming from like 155 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,000 the center part of it. It looked just like it was some kind of a 156 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:24,000 cage of sorts. So, wow, I thought it was interesting and I'm going to 157 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,000 keep my eyes peeled. But everybody in the car said, well, you know, this goes on all the time. 158 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,000 You just got to stay up between three and five in the morning and I just don't have that on occasion before, but 159 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,000 oh. Okay, thanks again. Alrighty.